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. -- fort worth, texas. caller: president obama needs to draw a line in the sign and tell mitch mcconnell and john boehner -- they do not respect him. they do not respect him as a man. do not just give away anything. i used to pick cotton. he had to do with the man said. that is what the republican party wants obama to do. he can do anything, but he has to talk with the republican party first. host: matthew from louisiana, a republican caller. caller: good morning. i voted for mitt romney. the first time i ever voted for liberty, freedom, and the rights of our constitution. i have one thing from abraham lincoln i would like to read real quick. you cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. you cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. you could not help the poor man by destroying the rich. it cannot come into the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. you could not encourage by taking away initiative and independence. you could not help small men by tearing down big men. you cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. you cannot keep out of troub

that are affected by them create the most jobs. now, senate republic leader mitch mcconnell says raises taxes on those businesses would cost 700,000 jobs. the president says we would simply return to the tax rates of the clinton years in which the economy created almost 8 times as many jobs as the administration of george w. bush. president will make his case to the public tomorrow and civic leaders on friday which is when these talks with congressional leaders come in. >> shepard: wendell goler on the north lawn. seven weeks isn't really seven weeks when you are talking about congress. lawmakers just got back to work today. then they are off next week for thanksgiving. then they will take a break for christmas and then time is up. mike emanuel is on capitol hill. one of the lawmakers back at work today congressman paul ryan. the republic vice presidential nominee. >> that's right, shep. paul ryan is expected to have a lot of clout after the elections. obviously a more recognizable name around the country. and he will continue on as the house budget chairman. ryan did not say a whole lot to r

. they met from senate republic leader mitch mcconnell who says they are ready to tackle difficult problems. house democratic leader nancy pelosi welcomed newly elected democrats to the house. they will be figuring out office assignments, learning house rules and ethics and how to set up congressional offices. the rookies in the house are at a dinner this evening. hosted by the speaker of the house, john boehner. shep? >> shepard: mike emanuel live on capitol hill. just in to fox news from the o really file? the chief operating officer of the long island power authority or lipa is stepping down in the wake of super storm sandy. this comes on the same day an attorney filed a lawsuit against lipa claiming negligence in the aftermath. and the attorney is seeking class action status potentially including hundreds of thousands of long island customers who, in some cases have had no power for two weeks. the feds say only about 25,000 customers in the storm zone are still in the dark only. certainly a major improvement since just yesterday when the number was three times that. but today as the new

leader mitch mcconnell says he's ready to reach across the aisle. >> we are ready to find common ground on revenue. but we are also not about to further weaken the economy by raising tax rates and hurting jobs. bill: in 30 minutes, what would steve forbes do? martha: that's a question i always ask myself. in this situation, what would steve forbes do? pill * these are big, big issues and negotiations will go late into the night. we'll get steve's take coming up on that. martha: an investigation is underway after a small plane carrying three pilots crashed into a neighborhood. what witnesses heard and saw there. bill: there were serious questions about eric holder and the petraeus affair. why didn't he tell the white house any sooner? >> lawmakers want to know in terms of when petraeus found out. he was under investigation. has it had any impact on the comments he made to senators about benghazi and what he knew? we just learned general petraeus says he does want to testify about benghazi. more in a moment. >> you can't get to the bottom of benghazi without him testifying. i want to hear

mitch mcconnell making the same thing abundantly clear. we are right back where we started. >> right back where we started. the american people voted on tuesday night to continue the dysfunction that we have had for the last two years. the president seems to act like he has been given a mandate, somehow he has been given this great victory. lou: important he did not use that word. >> thankfully, but here is the important thing, and i agree with my colleagues and friends here. there is not a coequal branch of government. the congress has controlled by the house of representatives, republicans, and senate the democrats. mr. obama, even though he thinks as these guys have already said, that he will press for his tax increase on the rich, it's not going to happen. the house was reelected, but a smaller government, keeping government spending in check, and, of course, not raising taxes. if he thinks that house republicans we will roll over, i think he's in for reawakening. lou: one for the country came today when we were stunned by the announcement of david patraeus resignation as cia dir

base on entitlement reform. the republicans remember when mitch mcconnell said make sure he is a one-term president. the president will be thinking about his legacy wanting to get things done. they lost voters by 56 percent. all that suggests to me is the president says something teaching the fiscal cliff i am willing to have 3-1 spending reductions as well as tax increases and pro growth tax reform package you can get something done there. >> president's second term notoriously difficult and the fact is the president won real election he didn't give as much of an agenda for his second term during the campaign. what do you expect from him that he has to worry ever again about reelection? >> go back to 2010 where they had the great mid term election. republicans think compromise is the answer for their political future. i would say think about what president obama did that ended up helping him win a huge reelection. he decided not to compromise he decided to double down on liberal i am. he marketed it in a new way he found inflexion points with women voters. he did it masterfully with

, except to mitch mcconnell. >> excuse me, you, mr. hoyer, mr. clyburn, you're all over 70. is it going to prohibit younger leadership from moving forward. >> so you're suggesting that everybody step aside? >> i'm simply saying, does this -- >> i think that what you will see, and let's, for a moment, honor it as a legitimate question. although it's quite offensive. but you don't realize that, i guess. the fact is, the fact is, is that everything that i have done in my almost decade of leadership is to elect younger and newer people to the congress. in my own personal experience, it was very important for me to elect young women. i came to congress when my youngest child, alexandra, was a senior in high school, practically on her way to college. i knew that my male colleagues had come when they were 30. they had a jump on me, because they didn't have to -- i did what i wanted to do. i was blessed to have that opportunity, to sequentially raise my family and then come to congress. but i wanted women to be here in greater numbers at an earlier age so that their seniority would start to acc

in mind for 2014. among those that are up in 2014, mitch mcconnell, john cornyn, lindsey graham, saxby chambliss if we were sitting here four years ago we would have unanimity that he was the king of the republican party in kentucky and there wasn't even a contest for who was the elder li acknowledged leader, then we get to the 2010 elections and he put every resource that he could come every attempt come every string he could pull to keep rand paul from running and winning miserably. if you look at this from mccaul's perspectives note that several of the republicans that ran for the senate this time wouldn't promise going in that they would support mitch mcconnell. and you know that you have the potential for a primary challenge in a party that you no longer control. your willingness to compromise on some of these critical issues may be itself compromised. if you are john cornyn, you would have stayed out of the race for the republican nomination for the senate this time around but you sat back and watched as the conservative and powerful lieutenant governor, the most powerful togethe

, mitch mcconnell. they have not been able to reach a deal. will they be able to move forward now? they were saying some nice things yesterday, both harry reid and john boehner. actions speak louder than words. there are many obstacles what they can do in the main -- the lame duck. host: we covered both yesterday at a news conference. let me begin with the speaker was talking about the fiscal clef and really what it comes down to is tax cuts and whether you let them expire. [video clip] >> real economic growth eluded us in the first term of this president. without it, we cannot solve the debt problem. for the purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement, we are willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. what matters is where the increased revenue comes from and what type of reform comes with it. does the increased revenue come from government taking a larger share of what the american people learned through higher tax rates, or does it come as a buy part -- byproduct of growing the economy energized by a simpler, fairer tax code with your loopholes and lower rates for

and some republicans. now we need a majority in congress to listen. >> mitch mcconnell didn't give mr. obama a mandate. they just gave him more time' and speaker boehner still objects to higher tax rates, shepard. >> shepard: republicans here and there are changing their tunes on a lot of things. bill kristol the conservative commentator is one of them, he says raise taxes on the millionaires it won't kill us that shook the g.o.p. establishment. he supports the president's own deficit reduction commission taxes and spending cuts which mr. obama himself turned down. crystal's comments came on "fox news sunday." >> you know what? it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offers to freeze taxes on everybody below 250,000. >> since polls indicate most people favor phasing out he upper income tax cuts. kristol ask why should republicans fall on swords for a bunch of millionaires who half of them live in hollywood and vote democratic anyway. two states have responded to make it legal to sm

. on the republican side of mitch mcconnell and john corn and who is coming off of two cycles on the republican campaign committee. he will be replacing john kyl who is retiring. another couple of people down the ladder were reelected. there was an opening for for the campaign committee slot. thank you for talking with us. our question this morning is your level of confidence in the white house national security team. let's hear from carrie from michigan. caller: good morning. can you hear me? i think this is another cover up for the republican party. look at what condoleezza rice did. she was telling people there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq and to still became secretary of state. 250 people killed in beirut under the reagan administration. they are having all of these investigations. i would think maybe we could move on from this. they have not found one iota where this administration has been involved in any cover up. this is something to hold up immigration laws, getting a job laws. they are having a hearing on the vote to -- no evidence whatsoever. this is the same thing. bengh

! next. >> leader pelosi -- >> i guess -- >> whoa! >> you always ask that question except to mitch mcconnell. >> oh, mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader is 70 years old. nancy pelosi is 72. in the world of politics, age is kind of a skewed concept. average age of members of the house is 56. and of senators it's 62. i mean, paul ryan is thought of as a young gun. he's 42. that's eight years shy of being a card-carrying member of the aarp. ronald reagan was 69 when he first ran for president. many worried he was too old for the job until his famous quip during a debate. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> yes, reagan used age to his advantage. but seriously, how old is too old? remember senator strom thurman who commuted from walter reed to the capitol at the age of 100? his aides had to vote for him. of course, this argument isn't limited to the world of politics. ageism rages in the role world, too. how often have you heard those under 30 grumbling about those old guys sucking up

to get along with. >> john boehner and mitch mcconnell are professionals when it comes to understanding the art of the deal. we didn't win the elections, didn't get the senate. we have to accept the hand that's been dealt to us. if you don't get to take something off the table unless you put something on the table unless you have got a gun. we don't have a gun. we didn't get that in the election. so what we have got to understand and i'm hoping members of congress will follow the leader and members of the senate will follow their leader. you can't have every republican member of congress and member of the senate trying to create a side deal. that's disaster in the making. they are not going to get everything they want. they have got to get everything they can and protect the american people more than protect party ideology as they try to keep us from falling off the cliff. republicans can't afford to get blamed for this. bill: speaker boehner seems to be speaking the way senator mcconnell speaks. he said people think it means we'll agree to democratic demand and hike taxes. i'm here to

across-the-board tax hikes and spending cuts that could trigger a recession. mitch mcconnell dozen by the president's claim that voters endorse a tax increase to do that. >> while voters have given him a second term, they have also given those of us in congress the power and the duty to ensure that he uses that wisely. and that is, of course, what we intend to do. reporter: republicans are suggesting tax reform, but there may not be time for that to happen before the end of your. jenna: the news conference is happening little bit over an hour from now. wendell, thank you very much. jon: fox can now confirm that general david petraeus from the former director of the cia, has agreed to testify to congress on the benghazi terror attacks. what will he say now that he is no longer in charge at the spy agency? plus, no doubt you have heard us talk about the fiscal cliff. what happens if the president and the congress strike out when they try to strike a deal? "the wall street journal"'s david russell joins us. >> how will this all end? will it take for them to just talk about the deficit

issue that's facing us. john boehner and mitch mcconnel said we want to compromise. don't want the american people to deal with what could be ahead. what is going on? we all think their backdoor meetings that get done. is that not the case? >> they are having those kind of meetings. they are going to have a meeting later on today with the members of congress with leadership. look, it's very clear we need to look something serious. send the message to the markets and the american people. this election pretty much laid out what the american people want. 80% of the american people want to compromise. both parties to work together. i don't know what it will take for these guys to wake up and realize that. we have to stop this negotiating i'm not going to do this. the only thing we know for sure is rates are going up for the wealthy. elections matter. he did win. >> i think what you have is a lot of posturing going on and it's posturing that takes you toward the negotiations that will take place. i would disagree with my friend marty that the rates have to go up. i think there's a

. >> eric: another quick point. when you have john boehner and mitch mcconnell and mitt romney talking about immigration, immigration reform, it doesn't hold the water, the credibility when marco rubio or ted cruz or martinez does it, who has a better background and basis for making comments on it. that is why it -- >> bob: it's a question of policy. are they going to change policy? >> eric: they are the ones to do it. if you're romney with immigration reform. >> dana: in 1986, they passed the bill, the immigration bill because of the amnesty bill in 1986, republicans are the ones that passed that. ronald reagan signed it. republicans lost seats in 1988. i don't know if that is the right rabbit to chase. >> bob: they increased percentage among hispanics. >> andrea: i still say no, matter what, amnesty, free healthcare, student loans. give, give, give. g.o.p., no quick fix and it doesn't see a harvard professor to see where it's going. coming up, the main stream media may not be totally to blame for the republican losses this week but they weren't fair and balanceed in the reporting. what sho

boehner and mitch mcconnell will say no increase in tax rate, 35% is it. i think the president will concede on that point. i think bainer and mcconnell will then accept the idea of cutting culling or capping the deductions each individual and the higher brackets can take, set a top limit on the deductions they can take and that will increase the revenue flow into the federal government. at the same time, the two congressmen, republicans, preserve the rates argument. they won't make all of their folks happy, but i think that's the deal in the works. >> greta: a couple of problems. number 1 is, the fact that -- today at least, i am always stunned when -- with the exception of senator tom coburn, i barely hear anyone talking about the tremendous amount of waste and fraud. we put up the example of the guy in the bathtub with the wine glass, which is a tiny, tiny bit, but it's representative of the mind-set here. no waste and frawpd fraud. they won't raise the tax rates, but when you do put caps on deductions, you are raising the effective rate. i mean, i guess they get -- i mean, i

, suggesting that 2013 would be the fifth straight trillion-dollar deficit. mitch mcconnell says higher taxes won't solve that problem. >> this is partisan politics. this is not an option. raising tax rates would destroy 700,000 jobs >> reporter: on this day, the president met with labor and progressive leaders since the day after his re-election that he opposed cuts to medicare and social security benefits. >> the president is committed to making sure that the middle class and the workers are paying the tax for parties we didn't get to. >> reigning in cost of medicare and medicaid is essential to controlling the deficit. mr. obama offered $34 billion a year in savings. republicans don't think it's enough. and they're demanding to be part of the solution. >> the venters also -- the voters also have republican controlled house and closely divided senate. in a government of three equal branchs, that is hardly irrelevant. >> at the white house, despite the seeming impasse over the bush tax cut, carney insists there is flexibility dealing with the deficit. >> i don't think the president is in a p

the majority leader, mitch mcconnell to do a select committee. why do you need one? the state department is under the foreign operations committee foreign relations committee oversight. department of defense is under armed service. if you have three different committees interviewing people separately we won't know what one group will significant sailing. so we should form a committee over department of defense, department of the state and the c.i.a. and ask questions and have a professional approach to this. i think congress would be making a huge mistake, let three committees go off by themselves and not coordinate. >> greta: senator harry reid, his view on a select committee is what? >> i don't know. i don't believe you can get to the truth in a professional way. when you talk to the c.i.a., also you want to talk to the defense, why were these people left hanging for eight hours. the c.i.a., why did you not get ready for an attack people were telling you. state department, god knows how many times did you fail the people in benghazi. i wanted one committee asking questions of all these

guess... oh, have you always asked that question, except to mitch mcconnell. [applause] >> greta: so what do you think of this q&a gone wild? are you on team pelosi or team russert? russert? back in two. [ male announcer ] chosing a windows 8 device with he from your friend. i'm thinking about upgrading... finally! jonathan was fine when you were in your 20s, but he's not right for you. good-bye jonathan and his creepy little girl hands. i meant... [ male announcer ] or choosing a windows 8 device with help from the experts at staples. another way staples and hp make it easier to upgrade. make your windows 8 experience even better with hp. and this week, get $200 off the hp envy dv6 notebook. staples. that was easy. itch the president's expected to meet request victims, local officials and first responders in some of the worst affected neighborhoods from the october 30 storm that killed 43 people in the city and damaged or destroyed hundreds of homes. may be utility companies have been criticized for their slow responses, restoring power, but now say it's 99% restored. the food & dru

. oh, you've always asked that question except to mitch mcconnell. >> some of her female colleagues booed. >> it's quite offensive, but you don't realize that i guess. >> reporter: pelosi became the first female speaker of the house in 2007, then went on to talk about her work to elect new, and younger people to congress. >> why are we talking about whether she's old enough, or too old to do it? >> reporter: melissa murray says it represents the double standard part of public life. >> this is a long standing kind of narrative, white men get more distinguished, women just get old and decrepit. >> reporter: often talked about for their appearance, rather than their accomplishments. >> these are things that don't get talked about when men are the subjects. we talk about their actions, their policies, not about their pant suits or their hairstyles. >> reporter: back to that controversial question. pelosi's answer? no. ktvu, channel 2 news. >>> tracking clouds and rain, using stormtracker 2 to show you when the first in a series of storms will reach your area. >> in 90 seconds, they cla

. next. >> you always ask that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> you, mr. foyer and all of you it is needed for younger leadership. >> so you are suggesting everybody step aside? >> no, the need are for younger leadership. >> i think you will see, and let's for a moment honor it as a legitimate question, although it is quite offensive , but you don't realize it i guess. >> anyway, this went on for another three hours before she finally answered no. i don't even remember what the question was. russert defended the question saying while pelosi laughed off fie cues, many say it hurts the caucus that all three leaders are 70 plus. the longer the top three stay the longer it takes to infuse with mu glued like the gop -- new blood like the gop did. as a 74-year-old woman, what is your take on this? >> i think it was an inappropriate question. i don't think any woman wants to talk about her age, nor do men really for that matter. young or old. especially in a position of power and leadership and the head of a major political party. so i think his question was valid. women at home may

- establish residency in kentucky before she could challenge mitch mcconnell. she has taken an active role in president obama's campaign. >>> justin bieber and selena gomez have split saying that their schedule made it hard to date. >>> teachers say this dance was also about raising the learning curb. beth parker has the story. >> reporter: one minute, it is a sidewalk. the next minute, a stage. ♪ >> my heart was beating real fast. and i felt nervous a little bit. ♪ under the moonlight >> when i'm on the dance floor, the dance floor just kind of speaks to me. ♪ because this is thriller >> reporter: a two-minute flash mob right in front of the national portrait gallery. they are students from d.c.'s savoy elementary school in southeast but, on this day, they're -- >> just like michael johnson. >> a teacher directed from on torch an suv. >> i want to teach them that they can go to wherever i want to go. >> reporter: savoy was traditionally a low performing school but they were celebritiesed by the president' commission on arts to get art supplies, instruments. the award goes to the

and then the new congress will have to fix it. mitch mcconnell will head up the republican side and he's very clear about taxes. one issue i never have been conflicted about was taxings. i wasn't sent to congress to raise taxs and this election doesn't change my principles it is clear if the president of the united states want to get something done he has to do it with no new taxings. read the republicans new lips. no new you whan? >> by the way. the president has more incentive to not rae taxes. the nonpartisan congressional budget said tax hikes with the spending cuts would the count rope back in a recession and they predict unemployment would increase to 9.1 percent. if there is any inducement to get it done. it is the cbo. >> brian: people forget tax cuts are involved and not just budget cuts. take a look at surveillance pictures. f.b.i. accounts this is it. ak 47 bandit that struck this time in idaho. he used assault rifle and ordered employees in to the vault and then made off with cash. he is wanted for robbing banks in california and washington. one of those robberies an officer was shot. a

with john boehner and republicans and mitch mcconnell in the senate to try to, you know, tackle a few big things. i think one of the things my, the other guest said, which is just fallacious and wrong and shouldn't be repeated is that the idea that the raising rates on people over $250,000 is going to hit a majority of small business owners. >> simon, y a small business. you're a policy wonk. >> you keep saying it doesn't make it true. 97% of small business owners will be exempt from it. >> you have no clue. >> i'm going to finish. the i'm going to finish. under bill clinton we raised taxes on rich people. saw the biggest economic boom in american history. under george bush we lowered taxes on rich people go into economic ruin. >> this is problem with people with no connection. >> i'm going to i'm going to finish i'm going to finish. so there is not, based on our own experience a direct connection between raising rates and on wealthy people and economy going, going down. in fact the opposite happened. and so you can keep saying it doesn't make it true. rick: go ahead, pete. >> simon you h

about the fiscal cliff right now, whether you're in the white house or your mitch mcconnell, which are trying to devise a some kind of cover for john boehner. the voters last night in the exit polls said that they're willing to take higher taxes but they think the government is too big. that's the deal that banner and obama almost got two years ago. so it's there. is within reach but dana has to be given some kind of cover that he can bring, 140 republican votes with him. it's going to be very difficult to do. obama will have to decide whether he wants to go off the cliff to give it up that preoccupation that we have with bush tax cuts, or whether he's going, the better passers, try to cloak into something big and mushy and do we like tax reform, and stretch it out and let the deal be massaged in such a way to increase revenue and more money for growth. anything to avoid that horrible road called a tax increase. but this is the hard work that is ahead. obama has got to make that decision. >> we heard the last panel toggle bit redistricting and its impact on partisanship, especially

raising tax rates and some don't. >> spoke with the minority leader in the senate mitch mcconnell and he said we're willing to fix the tax rate, close the loopholes but i don't think they will bargain on raising the rates. i think they honestly believe and i agree that raising tax rates on capital gains will hurt the economy. but there's another side which is the spending side and there are some republicans who say look if the democrats and president obama won't negotiate well let's just do these automatic across the board spending cuts may be the only way we can get democrats to cut the budget. >> some out there in the financial markets they say look we need to cut four times more than the president is proposing under his $4 trillion plan. i'm curious your take why the president has been silent. i guess this is strategic. boehner gave an interview a press conference. he's giving a press conference tomorrow. earlier cnn was told the president won't say anything but tonight we heard he'll make a statement tomorrow. >> the election was two days ago. today is thursday. he'll make a statemen

on things like entitlement reform because he has been re-elected. the republicans, remember, mitch mcconnell said the top priority is make sure he is a one-term president. that's off the table. president will think of his legacy, want to get things done not just stake out positions. republicans need to worry about their brand and they lost moderate voters by 56%. all that suggests to me is the president says starting on the fiscal cliff, i'm willing to have two to three to one spending reductions versus the tax increases and a pro-growth tax reform package. you can get something done there. >> chris: laura, president's second terms are notoriously difficult. the fact is that although the president won re-election he didn't give as much of an agenda for the second term during the campaign. what do you expect from him now that he no longer has to worry again about re-election? >> it's instructive to go to 2010 when the republicans had a great mid-term election. for republicans thinking that compromise is the answer for their political future, i would say think about what president obama did th

. the president has more flexibility to stand up to his base on things liken entitlement reform and mitch mcconnell said the priority was that he be a one term president and that is off the table and the president will think of his legacy, getting things done and not just staking out positions and the republicans need to keep in mind they lost voters. and, the president way be willing to have spending reductions versus tax increases and a pro-growth tax reform package, you can get something done there. >> chris: laura, presidents' second terms are notoriously difficult and, the president won reelection but didn't give as much of an agenda for a second term during the campaign, what do you expect from him? now that he no longer has to worry, ever again, about re-election. >> well, i think, it is instruct tiff to go back to 2010 when the republicans had the great midterm election and for republicans thinking compromise is the answer for their political future i would say, think about what president obama did. actually ended up helping him win a huge re-election victory. he decided not to moderate and

boehner and mitch mcconnell. can they say to the base of the party, we need to make this deal. it is good for us politically. it is good for the country policy wise, and we need to move on, or do the grovers of the world win out? >> david, thank you very much. chris cillizza. coming up, more fallout from the david petraeus situation. we'll talking to david ignatius. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. over time, the other premium pac can leave cloudy, hard water deposits, but cascade complete pacs help leave glasses sparkling. shiny! too bad it doesn't work on windows. okay, i'm outta here. more dishwasher brands in north america recommend cascade. in north america is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter re

, with the labor community. wednesday, the business community and friday, there's a meeting with harry reid, mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and nancy pelosi. so, will we get a deal? one man getting a lot of attention is erskine bowles. did you ever think your name would be part of pop culture? you are the bowles in simpson bowles. >> better be simpson bowles than bowles simpson since everybody knows him by his initials here in washington. >> so, when you talk about things, sacred cows, untouchables, whatever the word might be, in your proposal, the one paul ryan decided not to back, the one barack obama decided not to back, you had an increase in the federal gasoline tax. caps on mortgage interest. charitable donations and retirement contributions. these were all top choices. you also increased the eligibility age for medicare and social security. reduced benefits for wealthier seniors. some of those things average democrats and republicans say they agree on, other, they loathe them. is there anything that should be untouchable? >> the problems are real, no easy way out. we've got to

. if the republicans folded on that then and the mood that we're seeing ut from people like mitch mcconnell and bill crystal their mood on tax has shifted a little bit since the election. i think it's pretty clear at this point where this is going. >> you think their knees are getting weak. i will point out to you, david brooks, writing in the new york times, this is not the republican party of 2010. today's republicans no longer have an incentive to deny obama victories, never running again, much to the point you brought up. republicans will play ball, except then you have people like newt gingrich and this what is newt gingrich said this morning on "morning joe." let's take a listen. >> no house republican should be bamboozled into this idea that the only person that has a mandate is barack obama. the house republicans have a mandate. it's fundamentally different than obama's mandate. they would be well put not to try to cut a deal with obama but to say paul ryan is going to bring forth a solution to the fix, we're going to gather votes for it. i guarantee you you'll have a democratic substitute a

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are already digging in their heels. speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you want this fight, republicans? democrat from pennsylvania chuck fatah and ezra klein, msnbc policy analyst. he's writing about the fight over taxes today and the piece is called "the big question: how, not whether, to raise taxes." thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> congressman, do you think republicans will make a deal or is this 2010 with the tea party all over again? >> well, what the public needs to understand is the income tax system is not fair to them. there is a report done by the congress each year by the joint committee on taxation. sh

? barack obama is not interested in compromise. keith, you just contradicted yourselves. >> mitch mcconnell has been the guy out there saying it, and all republicans are not willing to have any new tax increases. >> that's not true. there's a difference between raising revenues and raising taxes. >> no, i said tax increases, though. tell me, am i wrong about that, steve? >> no, you are wrong. >> when did he say differently? >> look, i interviewed him this week. he said it many times. he said it on the senate floor. we're willing to compromise on raising taxes. that's something that a lot of republicans aren't real happy with, but he said look, i'm willing to put revenues on the table. but what he's saying, keith, let's be very clear. >> you're saying revenue. i'm saying tax increases. >> right. >> the bush tax rates -- no, i'm talking about bush tax rates. they expire on december 31st contin. >> that's what republicans won't agree to. the answer is no, we're not going to let those rates go up because it's going to do significant damage to the economy. >> like it did during the clinton admin

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, mitch mcconnell told my colleague last week that he does not believe that is his mandate >> as you know i'm a fierce advocate for tax reform for all the reasons we talked about earlier with competitiveness in america is falling behind in our competitive position and one of the main reasons it is antiquated and inefficient and there are ways to fix it. every other country in the world among the developed countries have transformed, reform, lower the rates. we haven't touched it since ronald reagan in 1986. bill clinton did raise it at one point but we haven't done anything to touch the rate and reform -- tecum from 16.5% to 15% which most of you are aware of because you do business there, and this capital investment is going to follow countries that have a more competitive environment in taxes is one of them's a we have to reform the tax code and when you do that you will get more revenue. it's guaranteed. again, as i was talking at earlier there are opportunities here for us as a country and if you look at the congressional budget analysts this and go to the tax committee analysis what

and both political parties to meet with him at the white house next friday. senators harry reid, mitch mcconnell, and speaker boehner and congresswoman nancy pelosi will be there. this afternoon, we heard the president say just about two hours ago, that he is open to compromise. he's open to new ideas received by a standing ovation walking in the room there. there is one point the president is sticking to. higher taxes for people making higher incomes. >> i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. i'm not going to ask student and seniors and middle-class families to pay down the entire deficit while people like me making over $250,000 aren't asked to pay a dime more in taxes. >> just about two hours before we saw the president, we saw this man, republican house speaker john boehner, he said, quote, everything on the revenue side and the spending side has to be looked at, end quote. when it comes to specifics, speaker boehner put the ball firmly in the president's court. >> i don't want to box myself in. i don't want to box anyone else in. i think it is important for us to come to an ag

with speaker boehner in the house and mitch mcconnell, who back in 2010 october told me his number one priority was to make sure president obama is a one term president. well, the president's re-election isn't a fluke either. institutional powers have been resent to washington. they're both retime actors with real power and they must come together. why? after the internal conversation of a national election, we now have external events that are all too real and pose a very serious threat to the u.s. economy. the fiscal cliff is not theoretical. it is a real problem. it has to be dealt with and the only path is bipartisanship. >> you write administration officials tell you president obama is hungry to move to the center. do you think congress is willing to meet him there? >> i think republicans have gun to internalize the election. they thought the president could be defeated in a bad economic climate. that didn't happen. the house majority in the house smaller. the senate minority is smaller and they didn't whip the presidency. so there are real factors. and you can say that the country is stil

reid and senator minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi not surprising here. what's the expectation? >> well, you know, we'll see. publicly, suzanne, there has been a much more consillatory tone that we've seen since the election, whether it's from the president or the house speaker john boehner, but i can tell you in talking to sources privately on both sides of the aisle, they admit that it's all about positioning and posturing to make sure at the end of the day if we do go off the fiscal cliff that they're not blamed for it. they're the ones who looked reasonable, not unreasonable, and they're preparing for the other side to blame them for the opposite, if that makes sense. that's a lot of what you are saying in public. the reality is that neither side has a really clear machine date or clear vote and no one wants to look at the end of the day like they never gave compromise a chance. listen to republican bob corker, though, because there does seem to be a little bit of a crack on the republican side on whether or not it's okay to raise some taxes. >> i think th

not focus as boehner says we have to as mitch mcconnell says we have to, to lower taxes and get more growth and you actually net more additional revenue, i'm for additional revenue not for tax increases, neither has boehner suggested. >> alisyn: well, he didn't talk about the loopholes being closed right there. >> dave: well, he said additional revenue that's the only way to get. >> alisyn: he's saying you get additional revenue when you take off the shackles of businesses when he they have lower tax rate. is he saying there will be increased revenue. >> mike: through growth. . >> dave: that's a very, very different argument. >> mike: changing tax codes and entitlement of reform, you can't get that before december 31st. >> dave: not a chance. they'll do a short-term deal and we're going to sort through this with chris wallace, he's next, today on fox news sunday he has a member of the house and senate's democrat and republican, so, the four of them should be able to come to the compromise, today on fox news sunday. >> alisyn: there you go. >> dave: he'll solve it. >> alisyn: that's right. m

. >> i guess -- oh, you've always asked that question except to mitch mcconnell. >> he missed the question. joan what happened there was luke russert got to ask a question during speaker -- former speaker pelosi's press conference yesterday with all of the democratic-elected officials on stage. and he asked about her age and about the fact that she's hanging on to the leadership position and isn't that depriving someone younger of getting it. and former speaker pelosi astutely pointed out that he would never ask that question of mitch mcconnell and then she said this. >> let's, for a moment, honor it as a legitimate question. although it is quite offensive but you don't realize that, i guess. the fact is -- the fact is that everything that i have done in my almost -- i guess decade now of leadership is to elect younger and newer people to the congress. >> john: that's a smackdown luke russert. i mean that's just -- come on. you don't! when have you ever heard someone bring up age -- even john mccain. no one e

term? [talking over each other] >> you should ask that question to mitch mcconnell. >> mr. hoyer, you all, does this prohibit younger leadership from moving forward? >> be what everyone to step aside? >> does this delay younger leadership from moving forward? thatt's for a moment honor as a legitimate question. [laughter] although it is quite offensive, but you do not realize it, i guess. the fact is that everything i have done in my almost decade now of leadership is to elect younger and newer people to the congress. i came to the congress when my youngest child was a senior in high school. i knew my male colleagues came when they were 30. they had a jump on me because they did not have -- i did what i wanted to do. i was blessed to have that opportunity to sequentially raise my family and then come to congress. but i wanted women to be here in greater numbers at an earlier age so that their seniority what starts to account much sooner. -- would start to account much sooner. we wanted to keep bringing in younger people. the decisions we made over the years to invest what we wanted in

, if not the acknowledgment of mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer and probably harry reid too which they're going to go to the leaders and say we propose that you in fact kick the can down the field to next year but we're going to -- by certain dates we're expecting you to do certain things that ways and means and finance and by the way if you don't, simpson-bowles plus -- simpson-bowles is going to have to be tweaked a little bit. and judge greg, former senator from new hampshire, and it's what they're doing is they're trying -- simpson-bowles is theoretical. it never really was, you know, flushed out. and is it didn't do enough on the entitlement side. so this group is working on it. so there's a document that would put dates and requirements and say, by the way, if you don't do it, you're going to be faced with simpson-bowles-plulls. now the problem with that is that's what sequester was. no one believes that. >> my first job in washington was working for a magazine called the "congressional quart were." i went out and studied all the rules of congress. somebody took me aside and said, there's only

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